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Getzen 1062 = Pain

Last post 03-13-2010 12:46 AM by Glissnote. 3 replies.
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  • 12-12-2009 11:47 PM

    Getzen 1062 = Pain

    To me the getzen bass trombone is the most uncomfortable bass trombone i have ever had. After playing it extensively for hours, my left writs is in allot of pain and it gets worst. I think this is a design floor because of the way you have to hold it and were the second trigger is located. I have changed the way i grip it to the same way Doug Yeo holds it ( you can check his Website) and its much more uncomfortable. However it still creates tension and discomfort in my writs.    
       
    I talked to a few people about it and they say you should buy the bullet brace from edwards, or a back hand rest from rath.   
       
    What do you think about this. Have any other ideas about this that are compatible with my Getzen 1062?   
       
        
       
    Thanks for all of those who help!   
       

    Getzen 1062 FDR
    Greigo CS1
  • 01-04-2010 5:32 PM In reply to

    • R.E.M.
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    Re: Getzen 1062 = Pain

    Have you ever thought about it that you might have a design flaw yourself instead of your horn?Wink

    Your problem sounds familiar to me.

    Apparently my hands seem quite wide, which makes the traditional gripping position of the left hand too cramped. Besides that, the outerslide sliced skin off my hand every time I pulled it to 1st position. I have played both Edwards and Getzen horns many times and there seems to be nothing wrong with them but for me they have the same gripping problems which I had with my Bach. I have that problem with many brands. So, it's my problem. Not that of the horn. (The only horn that I had the opportunity to play, that did not have this problem was the Thein Ben v. Dijk model. But that one causes some serious pain to your wallet.)

    I HAD these problems because I was able to solve them easy and cheap. I started out with relocating the pivotpoint of the second valvelever. I then shortened the lever so that I could use it in combination with the "Douglas Yeo-grip". I already used a backhand support and that whole combination worked quite good immediatly.

    But, I still wasn't good enough. I found out that there was still some room between my gripping hand and the slide itself. So after a three hour practice my hand and arm were painfull again because I had to squeeze too much to hold the horn. I saw photographs of Mr Yeo and to me it seems that I am bit taller than him. So chances are that I have larger hands than him also. Which can explain why his grip works for him and not for me after some more alterations.

    I solved that problem by wrapping handlebar tape from a roadracing bike around it. I use it to fill up the gap between my hand and the slide and it works great! The corktape quality that I use follows the shape of my grip and stays in that shape when I don't hold the horn. It is a cheap and cheerfull material that doesn't do any damage to your horn. I tried the fancy leather option but it is too thin for me and my slide turned green underneath it in a matter of  a few weeks. I have to admit. It doesn't look the bizz, but my whole horn looks crappy anyway.

    The whole opparation sat me back around 90 to 100 Euro's and gone were the problems. I don't know how much that is in Dollars but you can figure that out yourself, I think.

    I cannot say that this it solution for you too. But is relativly cheap to do and if you have the pivotpoint of your second valvelever already underneath the slide receiver instead of sideways, it saves you some more money. A backhand support is almost always a good investment although the Rath support is ridiculous expensive. I use one made by my technician himself. As for the Douglas Yeo-grip: If you try it with some tape it might work out fine but that is up to you to find out.

     Good luck solving this problem.

    "nothing beats cubic inches"
  • 03-10-2010 6:34 PM In reply to

    • carbonab
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    Re: Getzen 1062 = Pain

    I'm not sure if you are still having trouble or still looking for advice, but here goes..

     Reading your post was like re-living a nightmare, groundhog's day style, I actually own the same horn and went through a two month period with the same mindset.  I looked at Doug Yeo's other grip, I've tried adjusting the triggers, and was looking for an answer.  Finally my professor let me borrow his Edwards Bullet Brace and I have never looked back since.  The brace distributes the weight evenly on your arm.  Since using it, I have never thought about the pain I used to go through (until reading your post).  Although, I have never tried the Rath thing you mention, maybe that could work too.  But I recommend the bullet brace. 

  • 03-13-2010 12:46 AM In reply to

    Re: Getzen 1062 = Pain

     I haven't logged on for some time, but now see this topic on the Getzen 1062 FD. I have the same horn. Yes, it is heavy. I also used to cramp up, but on the slide, I had a curved piece of brass tubing, (cut in half), placed in the area where your palm and fingers fit when holding. If you look at pictures of the Conn 71H, you'll see a "mini" curve in the area where I put mine. Mine is bigger though and goes all the way in that area to really make a grip. I then wrapped with leather and build up in the palm area. Voila! Success. Easy to hold and no strain or stress. I also suggest you use a stand and don't hold the horn so much when you're counting rests. Put it on the stand, don't rest on floor. (Bad for slde anyway}. I can send a picture if you want.

    Hope you are having luck since your post and didn't get rid of a great, easy blowing horn!.

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