Definitive list of orchestral/operatic repertoire

• 06-20-2009 11:29 PM

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  bobroff Joined on 01-31-2003 Posts 14

  Re: Definitive list of orchestral/operatic repertoire Reply Contact Ed,  In response to your query regarding the "next installment" I have an answer for you; We are currently scheduled to record another d'Indy CD:  Symphony #3 op. 70 Diptyque, op. 87 Istar, op. 42 choral varié op. 55 (saxophone & orch)   Only the symphony seems to call for contra.  All the others are listed as 3trbs or 3rtbs+tba I would guess a release would follow after about six months.   -David

• 09-23-2009 8:30 AM

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  bobroff Joined on 01-31-2003 Posts 14

  Re: Definitive list of orchestral/operatic repertoire Reply Contact  Following up on my previous post here.  We are now recording more d'Indy:  Symphony #3 Diptyque Méditerranéen  Istar Chorale Varié   Now the Diptyque actually indicates "Trombone Contrebasse ou Tuba".  We rehearsed it with tuba.  I noticed the contrabass trombone indication yesterday.  As one of our trombone section is down with flu I think there's little chance of recording it on contra.  I do wonder why we didn't rehearse it with contra, though.   Release date, according to Ralph Couzens (the producer) should be around March.   -David

• 09-23-2009 3:43 PM

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  bobroff Joined on 01-31-2003 Posts 14	Re: Definitive list of orchestral/operatic repertoire Reply Contact  Update:  The "Diptyque" will employ contrabass trombone.   -David

• 02-10-2010 4:51 PM

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  randy Joined on 02-10-2010 Portland, Oregon USA Posts 5	Re: Definitive list of orchestral/operatic repertoire Reply Contact Hi Ed - What about the Glinka 3rd Symphony that has been discussed (elsewhere?)?  However, the score and parts are under GATT copyright, so I have not been able to view or obtain score or parts. Randy Malmstrom

• 02-10-2010 5:08 PM

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  Ed_Solomon Joined on 01-30-2003 London, UK Posts 352

  Re: Definitive list of orchestral/operatic repertoire Reply Contact randy: Hi Ed - What about the Glinka 3rd Symphony that has been discussed (elsewhere?)?  However, the score and parts are under GATT copyright, so I have not been able to view or obtain score or parts.   Mikhail Ivanovich Glinka (1 June 1804 - 15 February 1857) wrote only one symphony, viz. the Symphony on Two Russian Themes of 1834, which predates any use of the contrabass trombone in the nineteenth century. Moreover, it took until Stravinsky's score of Canticum Sacrum ad Honorem Sancti Marci Nominis for the contrabass trombone to be used by a Russian composer - then, too, only the once. The third symphony that is being referred to is that of Reinhold Glière, viz. Symphony No. 3 in B minor, Op. 42 ("Ilya Murometz"). However, this symphony is scored very much for a section of two tenor trombones and two bass trombones. The two bass trombone parts certainly call for a pair of matched voices, which are sometimes used in alternation. The score does not call for the contrabass trombone, nor has there ever been any tradition to speak of in Russia at any time to use the contrabass trombone, whereas the same could not be said of Germany or Austria between the turn of the twentieth century and the First World War, and even then it is still a comparatively rare visitor to the orchestra, the only major works requiring it at the time being Schoenberg's Gurrelieder and Strauss' Elektra. __________________________________________ Edward Solomon British Trombone Society Webmaster webmaster@britishtrombonesociety.org http://www.britishtrombonesociety.org __________________________________________

• 02-10-2010 5:44 PM

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  randy Joined on 02-10-2010 Portland, Oregon USA Posts 5	Re: Definitive list of orchestral/operatic repertoire Reply Contact I agree with your comments, and I was suspicious of the "Glinka" reference I had seen, believing it was meant to be "Gliere," and I do believe Gliere would have had nothing to do with writing a conta part!  Thanks! Randy Malmstrom

• 05-28-2010 2:57 PM

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  JMR Joined on 02-23-2007 Montreal, QC, Canada Posts 148

  Re: Definitive list of orchestral/operatic repertoire Reply Contact Here is another piece that can be added to this list: Gilles Tremblay's Fleuves. Though written in 1976, probably for the Montreal Summer Olympics, it only has been played in concert twice. Once in 1977 by the Montreal Symphony Orchestra and the other representation is being given right now! The Réseau Orchestra (an orchestra formed with the best musicians within the 7 music Conservatories in Québec) is on tour playing this piece, along with Debussy's La Mer and Mahler's Lied von der Erde. Concerts are/were/will be performed in Montreal on May 27th, in Val d'Or on May 28th and in Québec City on May 30th. The part specifically calls for "Trombone contre-basse". It features plenty of low notes, including some exposed pedal E's, F#'s and G's. At the very end of the piece, there is a "game" being played by both the contrabass trombone and the tuba, where they exchanges pedal F#'s with only the percussions reacting to them (us) Sadly enough, I don't have the instrument to play this piece, so I play it on a regular Bb bass trombone. It is sad, but I live with it. Gilles Tremblay's bio can be found here Jean-Mathieu Royer Conservatoire de Musique de Montréal Bachs 50B3GO